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ChineseDaily Transit Links Roundup
Contributed by Fred Camino on April 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 am
- The Palmdale Flyer begins service today.
- DASH now offering monthly passes in response to Metro ending pass reimbursement.
- Sidetrack the subsidies for high speed rail!
- It seems that even environmentalists are not immune to car-culture, Grist offers a reminder.
Discussion
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I wonder if the AV could think in terms of a light rail between Metrolink and the Palmdale Airport where development could occur as that area is going to grow by leaps and bounds over the next few decades. It would be nice to put a transit project it and build around it as opposed to having to come up with something decades after congestion was already negatively effecting the economy and environment up there.
Concerning LADOT:
Read it again, slowly. LoL! I love transit math.
Dan: LRT in Palmdale? “Build it and they will come” has a proven track record in LA proper because of the density of Downtown and the Westside, but really, Palmdale? The trip from DTLA is too far for Palmdale to ever become a popular airport for Downtown and the Westside, not in our lifetimes. I think even a Union Station-Palmdale Airport FlyAway would be doomed to a quick death.
LAX, Burbank, and Long Beach would have to be vastly more expensive than Palmdale for that to ever become a popular trip, and Palmdale would have to offer direct flights back East, because the SF route is not a long trip and it’s a competitive route at all of LA’s airports. The Antelope Valley’s economy is somewhere south of “dust bowl” as a result of the mortgage mess, and I don’t see that changing in the near future.
Rob: I’m not a math major, but I don’t follow. A commuter in an average month can assume 21 round trips, or 42 trips total. So 42*.25c = $10.50, and the monthly pass costs $9. The monthly pass costs $1.50 less than the single fare. Sure, we’re not talking big numbers, but the math appears to work. What did I miss? If you mean the 60 tickets (at least a month and a half worth), my guess is that they will not have a close expiration date, and they may also be geared towards City Hall, who gives out DASH tickets now like candy because of all of the employees and clients who have to go between their various buildings. If I were an HR employee who had to send everybody who came into my City Hall Main office over to HR’s bat cave at Temple/Vignes, I’d keep a book of tickets in my desk too.
Non-passholders will continue to use quarters - the only time I’ve seen tickets be used is when they are given away by Downtown stakeholders.
Perhaps its not a good use of resources. I’m just asking the question. Depending on how much development happens up there over the next three decades, it would be nice if they thought of public transit now instead of waiting until their commuting is unbearable before addressing the issue. It’s infinitely easier to build up around transit than to try to put transit in after the area is built up.
Good lord, why was that op-ed regarding high speed rail even published. Talk about terrible research.
For years they were talking about moving the transcontinental and intercontinental flights from LAX to PMD, and having a high-speed train link the two airports…
For PMD to really be attractive, we’d probably need a network of HSR lines branching out all over So. Calif….perhaps with remote baggage handling and even security screening (in which case, this entire HSR network would be a sterile secured space)
80% of the international air travelers couldn’t care less about whether they were surrounded by high desert or El Segundo when they transfered to domestic route.