Metro Looks to the Future and Says, “Si Se Puede”

Contributed by Fred Camino on March 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

Imagine more rail to more places.

Ahh, the audacity of hope… for a car-free future.

Last week, Metro released to the public their Draft Long Range Transportation Plan. The LRTP is a document that looks to assess and address the transportation needs of the Los Angeles area for the next 25 years.  A quarter of a century is a pretty big number, it’s hard to say if I’ll still be blogging when I’m 52, but if I am I’ll be able to link back to this post and review how the plan was implemented.

The next 40 days are crucial for the next 25 years, since Metro is allowing public comment on their plan until April 25th.   In order to encourage people to get involved, Metro has launched the Barrack Obama inspired “Imagine” campaign, in which Metro asks people to imagine a better future.  Yes we can!

The Imagine campaign may be Metro’s best marketing campaign yet.  It’s certainly the most complete.  The LRTP document[PDF] itself is beautifully designed, with inspiring photography that spans pages and equally inspiring copy.  The website is bold, colorful, easy to navigate, and interactive.  There’s even what I believe to be a Metro first… a blog! The blog even accepts comments.  There’s also a full on advertising assault, with billboards and posters promoting the Imagine campaign popping up all over the city.

Such audacity!

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There are 13 Responses to “Metro Looks to the Future and Says, “Si Se Puede””:

  1. People can also submit questions at http://www.mta.net for Chair Pam O’Connor’s live chat this Wednesday.

    In the draft LRTP, there is no substantial improvement in public transit between the San Fernando Valley and the Westside. It seems to me that the proposed Santa Monica Blvd. alignment allowing a one-seat ride from North Hollywood to Century City should be included, as well as a Sepulveda LRT from LAX up to Metrolink. The current Rapid 761 is weak terminating only at Wilshire. It should be extended to Pico to reduce the number of transfers needed for many people by one. Shouldn’t the countless people snaking through passes and canyons each way every day have a public transit alternative?

    Mine probably will not be chosen because it isn’t convenient or easy. But, that’s what I would ask.

    Comment by Dan W. on March 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pm »Reply« resta suma

  2. Yes, it looks like they did a great job.

    This campaign is as good as the “Miss Traffic” campaign is awful.

    I just hope people get the message come to some of public meetings!

    Comment by Scott Mercer on March 17th, 2008 at 7:27 pm »Reply« Fucking TROLL!

  3. I have never been to a public meeting before, though I have had the intention. I used to live in the San Fernando Valley and know where they meet; however, now I live in Compton. I am guessing the corresponding sector would be Carson. Just as a tip, what does one expect for the first time?

    Comment by rogedog92 on March 17th, 2008 at 7:36 pm »Reply« resta suma

  4. Well, you’ll see 5-7 people on a panel discuss amongst themselves an agenda. There may be a presentation from someone that may include visual aids. There will be 30 or so chair for viewers. To speak during the public comment portion, you’ll need to register. As soon as you arrive, ask to put yourself on the public comment list. You’ll have 2 or 3 minutes to give your comments at a podium. That’s about it.

    Comment by Dan W. on March 18th, 2008 at 8:53 am »Reply« resta suma

  5. Nothing will be resolved
    until we have a comprehensive Subway system!
    Los Angeles is well behind the rest of the world (among big cities) in its mass transit network, and current public transportation is inadequate to draw sufficient number of patrons.
    So, Subway throughout the city - is what we desperately need, and only then will we have a reliable option, and we’ll be able finally to leave our cars behind!

    Comment by Alek F on March 18th, 2008 at 9:12 am »Reply« Fucking TROLL!

  6. Nothing will be resolved
    until we have a comprehensive Subway system!

    The problem Alek, is that is VERY unlikely to happen. If the damn subway to the sea is so hard to get, and god knows how many years away, how soon do you think we’ll have a comprehensive subway system? Call me cynical, but the answer is very likely: never.

    What we need are other creative solutions that can work right now. We need to improve the quality of service of our current system. We need to build what we can and what is funded in a smart way that is logical and creates patterns of business and travel that do not require the car. We need more REAL transit oriented development. We need more people willing to think creatively and outside of the box. And we need to grow the transit subculture to show others that this is a lifestyle.

    Comment by FredCamino on March 18th, 2008 at 9:50 am »Reply« resta suma

  7. We do need a comprehensive rail system, but that is built one alignment at a time. Very little of it, unfortunately, will be underground. New York and London’s subway systems have significant portions of them above ground, and London has now gathered together portions of above ground rail as an “overground” in addition to its computer rail system.

    For “subway”, If we can get the Dowmtown Regional Connector AND the Purple Line to Santa Monica, we should consider ourselves grateful. Most of the other rail projects, like the Expo, Crenshaw, and Sepulveda LRTs will have to be mostly above ground for cost reasons.

    Comment by Dan W. on March 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am »Reply« resta suma

  8. 40% of the NYC “subway” is above ground.

    Comment by FredCamino on March 18th, 2008 at 10:27 am »Reply« resta suma

  9. Above ground or below ground is irrelevant. The only thing that’s important in designing a real transit system is grade separation. Even though I think that rail is generally the way to go, I would argue that grade separation is even more important than the choice between heavy-rail/light-rail/bus. Mixing an already screwed traffic situation in with your transit system is nonsensical, just look at the blue line for an example. Could you imagine that on the westside now? It wouldn’t move.

    In addition to that, I think that the MTA and the city must make sure that on street media, transit vehicles have absolute right of way (enforcable by heavy fines) and their own lanes if possible.

    Comment by Ben H on March 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm »Reply« resta suma

  10. I agree with you in principle, Ben, but I would not apply that to the Expo Line. That was never seen as anything other than an at-grade line for most of it. It will be safe enough and we cannot afford to gold plate the Expo Line when that money is needed to get the Purple Line and Downtown Regional Connector built.

    Comment by Dan W. on March 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pm »Reply« resta suma

  11. I would have to agree with Ben, while noting that traffic separation and gated grade crossings are also a factor. The long stretch of separate right of way and gated crossings between Washington and Willow is what makes the Blue Line bearable. Vis à vis the LRTP, I would like to see the impractical northward extension of the Red Line replaced by an extension of the proposed Crenshaw Line northwards to Hollywood via La Brea, grade separated north of Adams or at least the 10.

    Comment by johnny on March 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pm »Reply« resta suma

  12. Something tells me that Damien Goodmon won’t be too happy about any grade crossings on the Crenshaw Line.

    Comment by johnny on March 18th, 2008 at 2:05 pm »Reply« resta suma

  13. Johnny,

    The reality is the Crenshaw Line, as currently envisioned by Metro is only about $250-400 million from being a 100% grade separated project.

    Why build a system for the next 100 years in the traffic capital of the country and not spend the extra 25-40%?

    Look at the Long Range Transportation Plan, and the make up of the 13 member Metro board and you’ll see why. Simply, there is a competition for limited funding, therefore Metro is not currently in the business of building good transit, but instead in the business of building lots of transit throughout a very large county.

    What’s needed is not just new resources, but a renewed sense of collectivism and new method of building projects in this region. Otherwise, as the final page of the Draft LRTP shows, we’re not even making a dent.

    The plan is not very ambitious, and the “strategic plan” is not strategic at all. It’s a smorgersboard of pet projects thrown on a map with “Plan” slapped across it, when it’s really not.

    Internationally, look to Shanghai and Madrid to see a real Long Range Transportation Plan. Locally look to the great success of rail transit in America in the 20th century: Washington, D.C. Even observe the process occurring now in Denver and Dallas. Through their diversity in system, regional needs and challenges, and modes there is a commonality in system-wide thinking.

    We have to plan and think region-wide - not project specific. Focusing on corridors in a region as polycentric as ours is detrimental, and it costs a whole lot more money. This is the major point of Get LA Moving.

    Here’s just an example of how system-wide planning, and a little long-term vision could be used to drastically reduce the cost of extending the Wilshire subway just a couple of miles, as I stated in the Transit Coaliton message board regarding the Crenshaw LRT:

    The focus needs to shift from interlining to:

    a) simultaneous construction of Crenshaw and Wilshire (as Jerard suggest)

    b) using the same tunnel boring machine (if possible) for both Crenshaw and Wilshire

    c) identifying the resources to build the stations through alternative funding

    d) possibly (I’m almost afraid to type it), combined contracts and uniform station design (economy of scale)

    RESOURCES
    1) There’s no reason (even if you want Crenshaw/Expo at-grade), that we shouldn’t be working to build this station TODAY as part of Expo Phase 1.

    2) Pico/San Vicente is in the middle of a major redevelopment area. Have the next project built their simply have the station box included within it.
    Have any idea how much that land will increase in value the second it’s identified as a station location?!

    3) Wilshire/La Brea could be financed a variety of ways: BID, BAD, TOD, density bonus, and (I think) Wilshire Bus-Only Lane money

    SIMULTANEOUS CONSTRUCTION
    If we give up a Crenshaw/Wilshire station (and put that 10-20 mil from selling the land toward the Wilshire/La Brea station), just point the darn TBM east once the Crenshaw Line reaches Wilshire, and extend the Purple line by 2 miles without even breaking a sweat.

    That would just leaves Adams/Crenshaw station where the total cost would be bore by Crenshaw LRT, literally making the Crenshaw project north of Exposition a $300-500 million project, saving the county at least a billion when considering the phased implementation/stand alone cost for Wilshire and Crenshaw.

    And god how many more riders would we see? We’d take Crenshaw from a 40-45K line to what 80? Add some 25K riders (low ball number) to the Purple Line by just spending a hundred million or so?

    As is the point with G.L.A.M.: it’s the economy of scale, stupid!

    Put another way the savings can only occur with SYSTEMWIDE thinking and large construction contracts.

    Metro is doing a decent job marketing the plan, likely in anticipation of future ballot measures to increase revenue.

    G.L.A.M. is going to weigh in. I hope to put together draft comments this weekend/early next week to have people chew up. The goal is to push the debate, challenge these guys (the pols) and show them what is possible - what their engineers and all the region know needs to be done, and maybe just maybe inch us further in that direction.

    Comment by Damien Goodmon on March 18th, 2008 at 3:32 pm »Reply« resta suma